mareen posted this interesting theory that Peter got sick because he encountered to many mutants in too a short time, so maybe his body can't handle it?

I just thought about that again and I suddenly I remembered that Mr Bennett told Sylar that he's lost his mind because he took over too many powers. And since basically Sylar and Peter are doing the same thing...

Or maybe (here goes my theory) the visions made him sick?

Which still leaves the question: Where did the vision come from? The dream in the beginning I can explain, but not the vision.

Stop watch. Did they do what I think they did???

Totally. *G*

Mr Bennett told Sylar that he's lost his mind because he took over too many powers. And since basically Sylar and Peter are doing the same thing...


But with Peter it's a temporary thing, right? I'm not sure he lst his mind, I'd assume his body can't take it. I mean, the others - they're bodies were more or less designed for that ability, but Peter's was not.

Where did the vision come from? The dream in the beginning I can explain, but not the vision.


Can you? He didn't know what Sylar looks like, did he? I have no clue about the vision.

Totally. *G*

Good *g*

But with Peter it's a temporary thing, right? I'm not sure he lst his mind, I'd assume his body can't take it. I mean, the others - they're bodies were more or less designed for that ability, but Peter's was not.

No, what I meant is that since taking over many powers for good made Sylar lose his mind, I can totally imagine that taking over many powers for a short while can make Peter sick.

Can you? He didn't know what Sylar looks like, did he? I have no clue about the vision.

Yeah. Remember Richard Roundtree's dream that he shared with Peter? I don't think it was RR's power, it was Peter's. As an empath, he can atune himself so much with other people, he can share their dreams or have them share his if they are sleeping at the same time. The problem is that right now he can't control it, so he has no control over whose dreams he's sharing.

If you believe that, it makes sense that for some reason he atuned himself to Sylar. Remember how Eden (?) said that Sylar had done nothing but sleep since they brought him in? It means him and Peter were sleeping at the same time. So it would make sense that they could dream together.

I believe that in the future Peter wil be able to put himself into other people's shoes or watch what they are doing by choice and while awake. For now though it only works while he's sleeping and he doesn't know how to control it.

What he saw at the end of the episode though was not a dream and it wasn't something that was actually happen right now (like when he saw Nathan's accident). It was clearly a vision of what might happen in the future. I just don't know how that fits together with his power of empathy.

No, what I meant is that since taking over many powers for good made Sylar lose his mind, I can totally imagine that taking over many powers for a short while can make Peter sick.


Oh right, yes, I think so, too. At first I thought he was getting worse again now that Claire was leaving, but...he seemed okay except for the coughing. *shakes head* Actually, if Sylar was in Peter's head, in the dream, maybe Sylar is making him sick? And Sylar already might have the power of visions, so if he's in Peter's head, that might explain Peter's visions. Peter might have taken them over when they were connected. But that would mean that by now, he should have all of Sylar's powers. But maybe that's what made him sick (okay, does this make sense to you? I just basically typing up my thoughts as they develop...)

Remember how Eden (?) said that Sylar had done nothing but sleep since they brought him in? It means him and Peter were sleeping at the same time. So it would make sense that they could dream together.


True...oh, intriguing.

At first I thought he was getting worse again now that Claire was leaving, but...he seemed okay except for the coughing. *shakes head*

Interestingly he started coughing the moment he shook Mr Bennett's hand, which is why I still support the idea that Bennett is the one who can block powers, not the Haitian.

Peter might have taken them over when they were connected. But that would mean that by now, he should have all of Sylar's powers. But maybe that's what made him sick (okay, does this make sense to you? I just basically typing up my thoughts as they develop...)

It does make sense, but I don't think that's the reason. The thing about Heroes is that for all it's questions, the show has been pretty straightforward with the answers. Like: everything pointed to Peter copying other people's powers which is exactly what it turned out to be. Or it looks as if Sylar is stealing other people's powers, which also turned out to be true. Yes, there were lots of people who thought everything he did could be explained by Telekinesis only. But imo that's true only if one dismisses the easiest explantation for everything we've seen him do.

So, if Peter got the power of visions from Sylar, I don't think it's because of his dream about Sylar, it's because they came into contact with each other and it's a left-over from that moment.

Or, Peter getting sick: I think it isn't because of Sylar, I believe it's either because of all the powers he absorbed or because if Mr Bennett can block powers, his power cancelled out Peter's power the moment they shook hands.

Robson Green/Tony Hill ♥

WAH! FINALLY! I thought I was alone! *hearts*

no, you're not. I love Robson <3 He's so adorable. I even own Robson & Jerome cds (and his solo cd) xD

I only found Wire in the Blood two weeks ago and watched all four Seasons over the course of a few days. He's such a damn brilliant actor. I just wish someone would upload Touching Evil again. I missed it the first time around and only saw the US version. Which I loved but, well, it's Robson Green and I'd like to see his version of the character.

As for Robson and Jerome...I found a clip on youtube and it hit me that I do remember them from the 1990s. I was watching some Chart show back then to see what people listened to in the UK and US and Robson and Jerome were Number 1 in the UK. The reason I still remember it is that I just couldn't wrap my head around the fact that those two guys who looked like accounts were Number 1. For weeks and weeks.

Ich schaue WitB seitdem es damals auf ZDF das erste Mal lief, aber auch nur, weil meine Schwester meinte, ich soll's schauen, weil Robson drin ist. Wir hatten mal The Student Prince vor Jahren gesehen und da meinte meine Schwester, dass er mal in ner Gruppe war, also Robson & Jerome und dass die so'n Riesenhit mit Unchained Melody hatten. Ich mag ja die Bücher mehr als die Serie, und ich schaue sie jetzt, nachdem Hermione Norris nicht mehr mitspielt, auch nur wegen Robson (ich mag Alex nicht so wirklich). Hach, er ist so niedlich. Er ist immer so total überdreht und kindisch, wenn man ihn in Interviews sieht :D

Touching Evil will ich auch mal sehen, ich suche schon ewig nach Downloads, aber es gibts nirgendwo. Nur die Ami-Version, aber die interessiert mich halt jetzt nicht so wirklich, weil Robson nicht drin ist.

Ah! Deutsch!

ch mag ja die Bücher mehr als die Serie, und ich schaue sie jetzt, nachdem Hermione Norris nicht mehr mitspielt, auch nur wegen Robson (ich mag Alex nicht so wirklich).

Ich habe die Bücher gerade erst angefangen zu lesen und bis Teil 1 hier ankommt, dauert es auch noch eine Weile, also habe ich jetzt erstmal mit dem zweiten Buch angefangen. Vielleicht ist mein Eindruck auch völlig falsch, aber es scheint irgendwie, als ob Tony im Buch weniger seltsam ist als Tony in der Serie. Und bisher fehlt mir ein bißchen der Serien-Tony.
Und Alex...naja...
Es ergab schon Sinn für die Figur Carol, dass sie sich schnell davongemacht hat, bevor es zwischen ihr und Tony noch ernster wird. Und ich kann mit Alex schon leben. Aber sie ist halt nicht Carol. Und was mir ein bißchen übel aufgestoßen ist, war Tonys Kommentar zu Alex "I want to be with Carol. Or with you." Da bauen sie über drei Seasons diese Liebesgeschichte auf und dann läßt sich sie sich so einfach ersetzen?

Hach, er ist so niedlich. Er ist immer so total überdreht und kindisch, wenn man ihn in Interviews sieht :D

Heh. Ich habe so gelacht bei dem Youtube Interview, dass er zu Unchained Melody gegeben hat.

Und die US-Version von Touching Evil ist wie gesagt richtig gut. Ich kann sie empfehlen. Ich würde nur auch lieber gerne die UK-Version sehen.

ja, Deutsch - weil ich zu faul bin, auf Englisch zu schreiben xD

Ja, Tony ist im Buch längst nicht so'n Psycho (das meine ich nicht negativ, ich mag Serien!Tony) wie in der Serie. In der Serie sind sie auch sehr fokusiert auf ihn, und Carol hat nicht so viel zu tun.

Wenn du aber die Bücher liest, wirst du schon sehen, dass es nicht so...falsch war in der Serie, dass sie sich da so nah gekommen sind. Deshalb finde ich das so schade. Und dieser Kommentar zu Alex, Gott, ich hab mich SOOO aufgeregt darüber. Weil, Carol ist seine große Liebe (bin ich immer noch der Meinung) und dann sagt er sowas, zu einer, die er noch gar nicht so lang kennt. Graah.

Robson singt ja auch so sehr hoch, das sieht man ihn ja nicht an, vor allem wenn man ihn sonst nur auf Deutsch kennt (obwohl ich jetzt schon die Original-DVDs von WitB besitze).

Die Alex erinnert mich irgendwie an die blöde Helen in den Inspector Lynley Mysteries, deshalb mag ich sie wahrscheinlich auch nicht so wirklich...

I feel so dumb, can you explain the whole stop watch thing? I didn't get it.

It struck me as...out of character. Not for Captain Jack, but for whatzizname.

I agree. Seems like Jack'll do anything with a pulse. ;) But the other fellow had been so stuck on his girlfriend that he'd kept her partially converted body in the basement of Torchwood for that long ... and emotionally fell apart after *that* whole thing ... Why? So he could secretly have a crush on *Jack*?? I mean, come on. :) Not that I think it's a particularly bad development or anything... but it does make things awfully complicated when Gwen is doing the doctor fellow and she and Jack keep making calf-eyes at one another ... I mean, is anyone in this show NOT going to have an affair with one another?? :D Any excuse for a little shagging, I suppose. ;) (Don't get me wrong. I love the show. Probably for these very reasons. )

I mean, is anyone in this show NOT going to have an affair with one another??

Well, there's Toshiko...

True... But even though she's not doing anyone in Torchwood, it isn't like she's a nun. ;) Witness the episode before this latest one ... She was a bit freaked by that, yes - but Gwen's comment that "love looked good on her" (she glowed... or some such thing. This is a paraphrase), kind of involved her in it all. And of course, she's had a long-standing crush on the doctor guy (I can never remember his name. I keep wanting to call him "Angus". ). Though frankly, I don't know why anyone would be interested in him with Jack around. ;)

I admit to not seeing what ANYONE sees in Owen.

And it's only a matter of time before we see Gwen and Toshiko together...

Mmm...pity there's no cold shower in the office!

I don't think that would be the greatest of ideas... but maybe in some "alien taking over her brain" kind of thing, they'd do that. After all, that's what got Gwen snogging the girl they captured in that earlier episode, remember? (Owen too - which was rather more amusing. ;))

And what about Gwen's poor, suffering boyfriend, huh? We haven't seen hide nor hair of him in quite some time, have we. He's either not long for her life, or not long for the world, if you ask me. It was bound to happen - but Gwen's starting to lose her perspective.

I'm guessing that he'll just not appear again...or if he does, it'll be only when Gwen goes home and discovers that he's moved out.

It does make total sense though if Ianto is using his relationship with Jack to plan his revenge.

See, I was totally expecting those two to have sex with each other sooner or later. I was just also expecting them to have a big fall out with each other before it happens...which would then lead to some angry sex.
Since that didn't happen but Ianto made the first step anyway I'm now saying their fall out is still to come in the future. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the show ends with the coffee guy trying to take over Torchwood or something similar.

That's an interesting take on it. Ianto as the evil mastermind. The Coffee Guy Triumphs! Boy. The depths he's willing to sink to then... If that's the case, that's pretty depraved. (Almost makes me feel sorry for Jack. Well. Almost. Cuz... well. He kinda brought it on himself, the poor sod.)

I wouldn't even say he's evil, just that he's desperate and probably thinks he owes it to Lisa to get back at Jack, no matter if Jack is responsible for her death. Which I don't think. I think she had to be stopped, there was no other way.

If Jack is responsible for anything, it's the overall ignorance inside the team. I think the reason the team doesn't really care about each other is because in the end Jack doesn't really care about the team. He might like them, but in the end they are all replaceable. Jack is an incredible bad example.

You know, I think you're right. Maybe Gwen's not making calf-eyes at him. Maybe ... she starting to catch on. She seems to be the insightful, instinctive one of the group. That there's really not much of a heart in there. Or rather, that he hasn't allowed it to touch him in a long time. (I think in a lot of ways, the reason Jack and the Doctor got along so well was because they were so similar in that respect. The difference? The doctor allowed himself to love (we think :)) ... Jack just can't allow himself to do that (or at least, doesn't seem to have in the last 40 years or so). So he has sex instead. And lots of it. ;))

Basically, Ianto wants Jack and him to have sex with each other. He was planning on using the stop watch for sex games.

Ahh, thanks, figured as much.

" mareen posted this interesting theory that Peter got sick because he encountered to many mutants in too a short time, so maybe his body can't handle it? Or maybe (here goes my theory) the visions made him sick?"

Hmmm, that's interesting. I just figured that Peter wasn't near Claire long enough to completely heal from that fall that he had some internal bleeding, hence the cough. *strokes imaginary beard*

Either way, OMGWTFDON'TDIEONMEPETRELLI!!! I will seriously be pissed if they kill him off at any time in the near future. It's not even funny.