04 October 2008 @ 07:50 pm
I'd Love To Do Research Only...  
One thing about writing that drives me bonkers is doing research.

It's not even that I'm too lazy or can't be bothered to, on the contrary, I love reading and learning about cultural and historical things. It's just that in both fiction and non-fiction writing, I never quite know where to start.

The internet is a very broad and wonderful place. You usually find information about the stuff you're looking for, only you tend to end up on Wikipedia which is a great source for a general overview but as soon as you need details, you're screwed. At least that's what it's like for me. Perhaps I'm just not very good at googleling things, perhaps the internet's filled with mostly superficial stuff, perhaps it's a combination of the two--I don't know. Fact is, I never find the information I need. Never to the depth that I would like.

Same goes for books by the way--I've accepted a while ago I never seem to be able to find what I need for my papers and I usually write around it, but when I want to write fiction where I want to get every bit right, it gets a bit annoying. The books at our local library usually aren't theoretical enough while the books at my university are too theoretical. When I want to find out about lore, or historical details or medical facts (What were clothes made of in the 19th century? What was a typical meal in the 1920's? How long does it take someone to recover from pneumonia and what are typical steps? What's a typical police arrest like? These are just random questions, no worry ;-) ), I'm at a loss because I don't know where to look. Sometimes I go on amazon to look for books on a particular subject, but I can never find the right stuff. Especially when I'm trying to find out about every-day life in the 19th or early 20th century, about manners and morals and all the little things that make a story come to life.

Which brings me to a different matter: how many of historical details in books are actually facts, and how many are just author's guesses?

So just...I was wondering whether I'm the only one who feels that way. How much research do you do? Where? Any advice for me how to improve my research-fu? What do you do when you want to set your story in a time and place you only have a vague idea about? Where do you start? Do you also talk to people/experts? Are there any good websites for historic facts and such? (Like http://www.victorianlondon.org/, for example? Or [livejournal.com profile] little_details)

I'd love to hear your thoughts :-)
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[identity profile] fluttering-by.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
Google is nice. Depending on what you're looking for, so can wikipedia be - not necessarily as a reliable source, but it's a place to start that will almost always give you pointers on what to look for elsewhere. Or even the actual information you need, if accuracy and minuscule details aren't important.

I ask my flist too - my friends are great at suggesting things, even if they don't necessarily know anything about that specific thing.

I'll be writing a dissertation during the spring, and I know I'll be looking in certain databases and at literature at the school's library, but yes. Trying to filter out what you need, and knowing where to look for those important details you do need, make me want to tear my hair out sometimes. And that paper's gonna need a lot proper research to back up every little claim and nugget of information >.
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)
Exactly. Maybe I just choose too difficult topics but...finding the details you do need is tricky, and I don't seem to be very good at finding it.

Good luck with your dissertation!
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[identity profile] fluttering-by.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:16 pm (UTC)
It's a lot more work with books, but unless I'm looking in the databases at school, which only hold articles on "medical stuff", I much prefer books to the internet, because it means I don't have to first get rid of the porn, then the adverts (of all kinds, not just porn), then silly blogs and personal sites, and the maybe I may find something - if it's serious enough, and not the work of a mum or dad or giggling teen.

I may need to flip through a ton of books, searching references and whatnot, but sometimes, that's better:/

Thank you! Believe me, you're not the only one struggling with this:
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:19 pm (UTC)
Very true. I'll always take a book over the internet. It's just... the fact that a book has been published to me is also some kind of prove that there is actually something substantial and varified in there :-) (And God, how I hate going through personal blogs etc. first ...)

*hugs* I'm sure you'll do great :)
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[identity profile] fluttering-by.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:22 pm (UTC)
Exactly. It's a shame we'll be using mostly articles for our dissertations, as they're the ones most up to date. Books can be good for in-depth stuff on facts that have been around for some time, but we'll be going for the new studies, which means a bunch of articles and searches and wading through random finds. They did give two lectures on how to best use the databases and stuff this semester, but it's a lot harder than they make it out to be.

I'll certainly do my best! :) Good luck with yours too!
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
Ah, I see. And yes, true. It always seems so easy when they teach you how to use that stuff.

Thanks! :)
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[identity profile] fluttering-by.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
They just bring up search engines and click around and say "do this and this and then you can try this or that and bingo! you got a really useful place to go!" and then of course you try that when you next need to do some research next time, and uh. No. Not a chance.
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:32 pm (UTC)
Hee, yeah. Been there, done that :)
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