04 October 2008 @ 07:50 pm
I'd Love To Do Research Only...  
One thing about writing that drives me bonkers is doing research.

It's not even that I'm too lazy or can't be bothered to, on the contrary, I love reading and learning about cultural and historical things. It's just that in both fiction and non-fiction writing, I never quite know where to start.

The internet is a very broad and wonderful place. You usually find information about the stuff you're looking for, only you tend to end up on Wikipedia which is a great source for a general overview but as soon as you need details, you're screwed. At least that's what it's like for me. Perhaps I'm just not very good at googleling things, perhaps the internet's filled with mostly superficial stuff, perhaps it's a combination of the two--I don't know. Fact is, I never find the information I need. Never to the depth that I would like.

Same goes for books by the way--I've accepted a while ago I never seem to be able to find what I need for my papers and I usually write around it, but when I want to write fiction where I want to get every bit right, it gets a bit annoying. The books at our local library usually aren't theoretical enough while the books at my university are too theoretical. When I want to find out about lore, or historical details or medical facts (What were clothes made of in the 19th century? What was a typical meal in the 1920's? How long does it take someone to recover from pneumonia and what are typical steps? What's a typical police arrest like? These are just random questions, no worry ;-) ), I'm at a loss because I don't know where to look. Sometimes I go on amazon to look for books on a particular subject, but I can never find the right stuff. Especially when I'm trying to find out about every-day life in the 19th or early 20th century, about manners and morals and all the little things that make a story come to life.

Which brings me to a different matter: how many of historical details in books are actually facts, and how many are just author's guesses?

So just...I was wondering whether I'm the only one who feels that way. How much research do you do? Where? Any advice for me how to improve my research-fu? What do you do when you want to set your story in a time and place you only have a vague idea about? Where do you start? Do you also talk to people/experts? Are there any good websites for historic facts and such? (Like http://www.victorianlondon.org/, for example? Or [livejournal.com profile] little_details)

I'd love to hear your thoughts :-)
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[identity profile] ongiara.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 05:57 pm (UTC)
You know, just yesterday I was wondering how hard efficient literature research must have been in internetless time.

Well, google is helpful. When I seem to get stuck, I always try to google for a specific area of my paper which usually brings up a couple of more books.

Does your uni library have a tag search engine? Like Schlagwortsuche? Find one book and click through the respective tags should bring up more in the area.

But I guess it's likely you tried all that already.
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:02 pm (UTC)
I seem to be lacking the required minimum of brain cells to use tag search engines because--I never find good stuff. Or very rarely. Even when I do find books, it's usually not what I need. I guess I'm not very creative or too creative when using tags. :-/
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[identity profile] ongiara.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:13 pm (UTC)
You do not! Those weird programs are just, well, technically mature. And most of the time they're incomplete as they need time to digitalize the inventory and tag it and all that jazz :/
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:17 pm (UTC)
But HOW do people their research for historical novels then? I seriously don't get it :-/ And it's killing me...

The programs are technically mature and I am technically challenged ;)
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[identity profile] ongiara.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:21 pm (UTC)
Oh, I meant technically IMmature.

But HOW do people their research for historical novels then?
Out of my pay grade and also not my area of expertise. :/ Do you need a lot more books for your thesis?
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
I hope not...I'll try to find useful articles. *crosses fingers*

Right now it's also more of a "I want to write something set in a different time and boy do I NOT know what it was like back then." issue :)

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[identity profile] ongiara.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:27 pm (UTC)
now it's also more of a "I want to write something set in a different time and boy do I NOT know what it was like back then." issue :)
Have you tried getting a hold of movies set in that time?
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:35 pm (UTC)
All my vague ideas stem from that time :)I just...I really like books and online sites that I can print out and then mark certain passages or use post-its. It's really a general thing because I look at historical novels and think HOW THE HELL DO THEY DO THAT? :D
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[identity profile] ongiara.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:39 pm (UTC)
Yeah well, post-its and movies probably won't mix that well ^^

HOW THE HELL DO THEY DO THAT?
I second that.
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:46 pm (UTC)
See? ;)

Besides, when they wear clothes in a film it usually doesn't tell about the material or how the clothes differ in different classes etc....
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[identity profile] ongiara.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:48 pm (UTC)
when they wear clothes in a film it usually doesn't tell about the material or how the clothes differ in different classes
Good point. Let's scratch the movie idea. ;p
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One Evil Muffin[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2008 06:50 pm (UTC)
:P

See? I'm screwed! :D
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