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legoline ([personal profile] legoline) wrote2005-11-01 08:59 pm

WTF???????????

From here ... and please tell me they're kidding. It's a troll, right? RIGHT?

By Mystech: Yeah yeah and he and his friends run around calling people "Mud bloods" which, if I recall correctly, is very close to a slur actually used by American white supremacists.

Does Harry Potter express raciest views? Of course. Should J.K. Rowling be frowned upon for this? I don't think so. She's British, she just can't help it. . . its bred into them. She probably doesn't even know she's doing it, and it's not as if she's actually making any derogatory statements against any actual race, so really in the end who cares?


By android: There's nothing wrong, illegal, or unscientific about racial awareness and preferring your own kind. Bigotry I'm not so fond of, but only undermen equate the two.


by SCrow:Well, to go back to the original point about Harry Potter being a racist, the book certainly has some elements that could definatly be interpreted as Nazi related symbols. For example, Snape's initials are S.S. which relates to the Schutzstaffel from the holocaust. Another S.S. related point is Harry's scar, which looks alot like the tag in which the S.S. had on their uniform. I also agree with the original point of this arguement, that being the connection between the half-blood and pure-blood to Naziism. I agree it is just a book but there alot more to the book then justthe story.


And THEN they go round drawing comparisons to "Mein Kampf" by Hitler and act all smart-arsey...WTF???

And besides? Don't talk about stuff you don't have a clue about just because you've seen Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List you morons.

I almost feel offended by that rubbish. I live in the country that was ruled by Nazis and caused millions of deaths. Comparing Harry Potter to Mein Kampf is like a slap into my face.

[identity profile] snuffkin.livejournal.com 2005-11-01 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh Fandom Wank how I love thee *g*

[identity profile] unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com 2005-11-01 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
She's British, she just can't help it. . . its bred into them.

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*slaps person silly*
slightlytookish: John and Gale looking at each other against a blue background (HP: Four Champions by nee_chee_kitty)

[personal profile] slightlytookish 2005-11-01 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm...this is why I'll continue to cling to LOTR fandom, no matter how much I love HP. The drama, I just can't take too much of it.

Is it possible, though, that these people are reacting to this article? (http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=862542004) I have only one HP-exclusive person on my f-list and she posted a link to this about a month or go. I read it and went right back to my hobbits, but perhaps others wanted to discuss it.

[identity profile] aliphaunt.livejournal.com 2005-11-01 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, for goodness's sake - yes, the phrase Mudblood is racist, but that's the point - the whole point is Voldemort and all evil witches and wizards are obsessed with 'pure' blooded people, and Harry, and through him JK are saying how wrong that is...
And the fact Harry's scar is meant to be a symbol of the SS is absolute bullsh*t (scuse my French) - the lightning shaped scar is very common in novels - it may be unoriginal, but it's certainly not a symbol of Nazi sympathy.

[identity profile] glorfinniel.livejournal.com 2005-11-01 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
She's British, she just can't help it. . . its bred into them.

How dare they say something like that about the British??

If anything, we're the complete opposite, being ridiculously over the top when it comes to political correctness. Gah!!

/angry ranting

[identity profile] hopelessfangirl.livejournal.com 2005-11-01 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"For example, Snape's initials are S.S. which relates to the Schutzstaffel from the holocaust. Another S.S. related point is Harry's scar, which looks alot like the tag in which the S.S. had on their uniform."

*deadpan* ...seriously? Oh yes, I'm absolutely sure that that is what JKR had in mind when thinking up a name for Snape. Oh yes. No doubt in my mind. [/SARCASM] And the thing about Harry's scar is just funny.

RE what [livejournal.com profile] glorfinniel said: "'She's British, she just can't help it. . . its bred into them. '

How dare they say something like that about the British??"


It's total irony, isn't it? A discussion condemning HP for its racial undertones, then turning around and doing the exact same thing by attacking a group of people in such a prejudiced way. They can't even see their own hypocracy.

And I have to address this Harmonian wank, because being one myself, I get insulted when people mock us so. I know, there IS a lot of wank out there, and even I get fed up with a lot of it, but we deserve a break every now and then. What I think the big point missed about that OTP isn't the fact that we're oblivious to R/Hr, but the fact that we don't understand R/Hr. I know I personally just don't get it. At all. I see it! It's right there in front of me! But I have no idea why the fates (or, well, JKR) would want those two to get together. *shrug* If someone could explain it, I'd be very willing to listen. I've yet to understand why. =)
Had to get that out. What's the point of it all if you don't stick up for the things you love, right?

[identity profile] coneygoil.livejournal.com 2005-11-02 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
What the heck? I may not be a big fan of HP, but I've read the books and have found no such thing as racist in them. I actually thought that it was very diverse when it came to that subject.

[identity profile] ianua.livejournal.com 2005-11-02 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Meh, wherever you go you get people who link things on the most stupid, tenuous links. I know someone who was trying to say harry potter advocates devil worship and the occult. Yeah, right. All I can say is these people must be a bit fuuny in the head. And as for racism being 'bred in' to British people, it's bollocks. Yep, you get British racists, just like everywhere else, and yep, we did collonise countries that wern't ours and enslave their people, but just as your country has bad things in it's past, to us, it's just a reminder not to let anything like that happen again.

[identity profile] fairywinkle.livejournal.com 2005-11-02 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Of course the book has racism, that's exactly what it's meant to be! For that other nonsense, some people read into these books WAY too much.

[identity profile] rose-drop.livejournal.com 2005-11-02 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs*.... *then cries*

I have a word for people like that, and it's long, and unfortunately rather ugly.

[identity profile] loozy.livejournal.com 2005-11-02 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Das is'n Scherz oder???
Ich glaub, meine Kinnlade ist grad nach unten gefallen, so tief wie selten zuvor... Haben die ein Rad ab oder was?????????