WTF???????????

[legoline]

From here ... and please tell me they're kidding. It's a troll, right? RIGHT?

By Mystech: Yeah yeah and he and his friends run around calling people "Mud bloods" which, if I recall correctly, is very close to a slur actually used by American white supremacists.

Does Harry Potter express raciest views? Of course. Should J.K. Rowling be frowned upon for this? I don't think so. She's British, she just can't help it. . . its bred into them. She probably doesn't even know she's doing it, and it's not as if she's actually making any derogatory statements against any actual race, so really in the end who cares?


By android: There's nothing wrong, illegal, or unscientific about racial awareness and preferring your own kind. Bigotry I'm not so fond of, but only undermen equate the two.


by SCrow:Well, to go back to the original point about Harry Potter being a racist, the book certainly has some elements that could definatly be interpreted as Nazi related symbols. For example, Snape's initials are S.S. which relates to the Schutzstaffel from the holocaust. Another S.S. related point is Harry's scar, which looks alot like the tag in which the S.S. had on their uniform. I also agree with the original point of this arguement, that being the connection between the half-blood and pure-blood to Naziism. I agree it is just a book but there alot more to the book then justthe story.


And THEN they go round drawing comparisons to "Mein Kampf" by Hitler and act all smart-arsey...WTF???

And besides? Don't talk about stuff you don't have a clue about just because you've seen Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List you morons.

I almost feel offended by that rubbish. I live in the country that was ruled by Nazis and caused millions of deaths. Comparing Harry Potter to Mein Kampf is like a slap into my face.

Comments

[unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com]

the moment we say something remotely derogatory (whoever it is aimed at, and for whatever reason) they assume it's racism.

Unless one is in a racial minority onesself.

I'm allowed to be racist! I'm middle-class! I live in Suffolk! There is no rcial minority here, I don't know how to do deal with them! Actually, I did find myself staring at a little black lady in town the other day thinking "That's a rare sight in these parts!"

[aliphaunt.livejournal.com]

Do you know some people claimed LOTR was racist? All of the orcs were brownish coloured, and the elves/humans/hobbits/dwarves were all white, hence *gasp* Tolkien was racist, and orcs represent black people, and immigrants!

[legoline.livejournal.com]

I'm allowed to be racist! I'm middle-class! I live in Suffolk!

*giggles*

[unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com]

Just what we should all aspire to be!1

Do you know after the bombings in London in July, I saw on a forum some American said "Ha! Now you know what it feels like!"

Yeah because the IRA never bombed us or anything, we've never had terrorist attacks before. We certainly haven't hd every single major city bombed to kingdom come during any world war.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Yeah because the IRA never bombed us or anything, we've never had terrorist attacks before.


You know that's EXACTLY what I though. I went to London about two weeks after the bombings and everyone went "Aren't you afraid?" and all I said was "Well it's not like the IRA didn't ever set bombs in London, is it?" ...

Lots of Americans are stupid anyway.


Oh, I'm a racist. Well it runs in my blood...

[unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com]

8th German over here! The rest of that half is London and the other half is channel islands. I'm disappointingly single race.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

*snorts*

Some people do have problems ... :o)

[unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com]

Damn Irish!

Do you know why the grass is so green in Ireland?

Because they're all over here treading on ours!

[hopelessfangirl.livejournal.com]

"For example, Snape's initials are S.S. which relates to the Schutzstaffel from the holocaust. Another S.S. related point is Harry's scar, which looks alot like the tag in which the S.S. had on their uniform."

*deadpan* ...seriously? Oh yes, I'm absolutely sure that that is what JKR had in mind when thinking up a name for Snape. Oh yes. No doubt in my mind. [/SARCASM] And the thing about Harry's scar is just funny.

RE what glorfinniel said: "'She's British, she just can't help it. . . its bred into them. '

How dare they say something like that about the British??"

It's total irony, isn't it? A discussion condemning HP for its racial undertones, then turning around and doing the exact same thing by attacking a group of people in such a prejudiced way. They can't even see their own hypocracy.

And I have to address this Harmonian wank, because being one myself, I get insulted when people mock us so. I know, there IS a lot of wank out there, and even I get fed up with a lot of it, but we deserve a break every now and then. What I think the big point missed about that OTP isn't the fact that we're oblivious to R/Hr, but the fact that we don't understand R/Hr. I know I personally just don't get it. At all. I see it! It's right there in front of me! But I have no idea why the fates (or, well, JKR) would want those two to get together. *shrug* If someone could explain it, I'd be very willing to listen. I've yet to understand why. =)
Had to get that out. What's the point of it all if you don't stick up for the things you love, right?

[glorfinniel.livejournal.com]

Indeed I can! :)

[legoline.livejournal.com]

*rolls on floor laughing*

[unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com]

Ah, but do you know the words?

[aliphaunt.livejournal.com]

Yeah! I don't know why people have to read deeper meanings into everything - 'Look, if you look at it this way, reading the first letter of every third world, it reads 'I love Hitler...' DELIBERATE FASCISM!!'

[glorfinniel.livejournal.com]

Hm, it's not the same over here. Farnborough? I would say that at lest a third of the people in our college are foreign

[glorfinniel.livejournal.com]

Nah, that's cool! Be proud of it!

[unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com]

Darn for'ners! *waves pitchfork at them because being from Suffolk, I am obviously a farmer*

[unhobbityhobbit.livejournal.com]

There has got to be some kind of upside to living here, we are the butt of a large number of jokes. One of my "fellow students" in my English class was from London and honestly! "I don't suppose you'd know this because you live in Suffolk but..." , "well, in London we..."

Yeesh, we might be alarmingly close, but we don't live in Norfolk!

[coneygoil.livejournal.com]

What the heck? I may not be a big fan of HP, but I've read the books and have found no such thing as racist in them. I actually thought that it was very diverse when it came to that subject.

[ianua.livejournal.com]

Meh, wherever you go you get people who link things on the most stupid, tenuous links. I know someone who was trying to say harry potter advocates devil worship and the occult. Yeah, right. All I can say is these people must be a bit fuuny in the head. And as for racism being 'bred in' to British people, it's bollocks. Yep, you get British racists, just like everywhere else, and yep, we did collonise countries that wern't ours and enslave their people, but just as your country has bad things in it's past, to us, it's just a reminder not to let anything like that happen again.

[fairywinkle.livejournal.com]

Of course the book has racism, that's exactly what it's meant to be! For that other nonsense, some people read into these books WAY too much.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

What I think the big point missed about that OTP isn't the fact that we're oblivious to R/Hr, but the fact that we don't understand R/Hr. I know I personally just don't get it. At all. I see it! It's right there in front of me! But I have no idea why the fates (or, well, JKR) would want those two to get together. *shrug* If someone could explain it, I'd be very willing to listen. I've yet to understand why. =)


You know there is nothing wrong with shipping Hr/H but some of the fans make such a fuss about it I'm glad I never really stepped into that fandom...and I read a very good essay once why H/Hr makes no sense. It basically said that Ron and Hermione are two extremes, and he isn't happy with either of them if he's alone.

In POA, when Harry has a fight with Hermione about the broom and spends all his time with Ron, it is fun yes but he gets nothing DONE. In GOF when he's jealous of Ron he spends more time with Hermione, and isn't happy either. The thing is, what the author said, that Ron & Hermione are there to take care of him, both in their ways. Of course she could take care of them either as his gf, but as someone pointed out, they are way too parent-like, both of them. They even represent Harry's parents socially, the Muggle-born, bright witch and the pure-blood.

And how can you not see R/H? :o) I mean, the teasing, the mocking... it's JUST the same as with Lily and James, really. The same as Harry spending his vacation at the Weasley's is basically the same as with Sirius Black... :O)

[rose-drop.livejournal.com]

*laughs*.... *then cries*

I have a word for people like that, and it's long, and unfortunately rather ugly.

[loozy.livejournal.com]

Das is'n Scherz oder???
Ich glaub, meine Kinnlade ist grad nach unten gefallen, so tief wie selten zuvor... Haben die ein Rad ab oder was?????????

[glorfinniel.livejournal.com]

And a darn good farrrrmer at that too!

(Any luck with raking the moon out lately? :-P)

[glorfinniel.livejournal.com]

*joins you*