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[legoline]

THAT WAS COMPLETELY AWESOME. Just so you know.

Halfway through the episode I realised that Gisborne's sister was in the episode. HAI ISABELLA. This time without frizz hair?

ANYWAY: ANY THOUGHTS ON 2x01, PEOPLE?

(Also, thank you Live stream for only dying on me twice. I wish you and I would work this well together on Merlin, too.)

ETA: OKAY, SOME THOUGHTS.


LOVED the frequent ferences to Sherlock and John behaving like little boys. BLESS! I love how their relationship has developed. They actually seem like pals now and are basically sort of developing into movie!Holmes and Watson. YAY!

ABSOLUTELY LOVED Sherlock apologising to Molly. John's good influence? ALSO OMG HOW ADORABLE ARE SHERLOCK AND MRS HUDSON? I loved how protective he is of her and how well she knows him and how badass she actually is. Loved Mycroft, too. Even liked Irene Adler (though I wish Sherlock hadn't saved her in the end. I don't mind her coming back but I wish he wouldn't know she's alive). Loved how Mycroft and John were worried for him. LOVED THE BUCKINGHAM PALACE SCENE. Loved John saying he isn't gay even though no one believes him :p Loved Sherlock playing the violin!

Kind of loved...everything, really?

ETA2: Rupert Graves I love you for getting the Umlaut in "Düsseldorf" right, instead of just going with the easier "Dusseldorf". You rock.

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[liz-mo.livejournal.com]

SHERLOCK WAS AWESOME! LESTRADE MENTIONED DÜSSELDORF! CHRISTMAS AT 221B! MRS HUDSON ROCKED SO F****G MUCH!
More detailed thoughts once I've had a chance to , hehm, rewatch.
In general I loved seeing so much of Mrs Hudson and Mycroft, though I did think the "allknowing-ness" of Sherlock was a bit over the top, as was the levitiy in the beginning of the ep. Though I didn't mind the meta on fandom and John's " They think I am gay no matter what I say":D
Interestingly enough I understood most lines. I was worried by watching livestream that I wouldn't understand a lot. Watching the first season for the first time I understood only half of it. Only subtitles saved me. But apparently I 've gotten used to Sherlock''s way of talking. There were only very few lines I didn't get.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

HRISTMAS AT 221B! MRS HUDSON ROCKED SO F****G MUCH!

WORD WORD WORD! And I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED how Sherlock went all, "MYCROFT!" when Mycroft told Mrs Hudson to shut up. YES. AND HOW SHERLOCK BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THE GUY BECAUSE HE ATTACKED MRS HUDSON.

I didn't catch the Düsseldorf bit :( I guess I was too shocked the live stream actually worked.

True that! I got most of the episode, too. Ha! My brain is working on Sherlock-speed apparently :-)

I loved how everybody kept referring to John & Sherlock as "boys". Awww, BOYS!

[liz-mo.livejournal.com]

I can't edit a comment once someone has replied to it?
Here's what I meant to say in reply to your edited entry:

Edited to include your edit:
Basically word to everything.
While I don't mind Sherlock rescuing Adler, it would also have been very fitting if he hadn't. It was of course clear that he knew John was lying and I guess that john knew that too and used that not to have to actually tell Sherlock.
But it would also have been fitting if they'd ended the ep with the showing of the text message.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

I can't edit a comment once someone has replied to it?

Nope, afraid not :-(

It was of course clear that he knew John was lying and I guess that john knew that too and used that not to have to actually tell Sherlock.

I liked that entire scene and I wish they would have ended it on the sending of the text message. I mean, it did nicely went full cicle in regard to Mycroft's comment how only Sherlock could outsmart him but even so...I like my endings bittersweet. It felt a bit deus ex machina.

[liz-mo.livejournal.com]

Now the actual reply:
When they are at the car of that person that was supposed to be on a plane but was in a trunk instead, Lestrade mentionssomething about theplane coming from Düsseldorf.
Also as of now I ship Mycroft/Mrs Hudson. Mrs Hudson is the only one who can make Mycroft loosehis temper. Not even Sherlock in a sheet in Buckingham Palace can do that.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Mrs Hudson really is like a subsitute mom, isn't she? :p

Aaaaaaah. Very cool. I'll be flying from Düsseldorf to Heathrow in February--as of now, that shall be an hour of geekdom. Except for the dead people.

OMG JUST REWATCHED IT: RUPERT GRAVES SAYS "DÜSSELDORF" --not DUSSELDORF. I LOVE HIM.

[piplover.livejournal.com]

I was really disappointed they had to make Adler into a sex object. I had hope when they said she was dead, but then they had to throw in that twist. I guess I should know better, but I had hoped the writers would do things differently this time around.

Other than that, I missed the beginning as the stream wasn't working, so I'll have to watch it again.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

I don't know too much about the Sherlock Holmes-verse (yet), so for me the dominatrix thing was an interesting approach that differed from the movie adaptation. Maybe they tried to make her different from the movies? But I agree, the sex object thing has been done before.

[piplover.livejournal.com]

The things is, in the book, she wasn't a sexual person. She was an opera singer who was engaged to be married. The whole thing with her story is that the King was a jerk to her, and she was going to reveal the photo of the two of them to wreck his wedding. She changed her mind after she was married, because she realized it didn't matter any more, and she was happy.

In the whole story, Holmes talks to her maybe twice. But she had been warned about his use of disguise, so she was able to recognize what was happening and outsmarted him.

There was at no point a love story between them, at all! Holmes admired her for her brains and the ability to outwit him, and he did have a bit of a crush on her. But that was it. He admired her.

Most adaptations have somehow taken that story and turned her into a sexpot and turned admiration into a love story.

Sorry, it just drives me up the wall. Irene Adler was smart and talented, but she wasn't a sex obsessed person or in love with Holmes. And I hate how there hasn't really been a good interpretation of the story since the Brett one.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Ah, okay. Thanks for the explanation.

That's annoying of course, then. :-( I guess sex and love have become such a "must" in modern television and movies that the writers feel they have to seize every chance to squeezing one in--and Irene Adler probably offers the best chance of doing that because of possible UST. I could certainly live without it :-/

[smallship1.livejournal.com]

Yes indeed.

[mareen.livejournal.com]

See, I don't think she was made into a sex object. She was comfortable with sex and her body, but he was at no point in the story an object. Except for when Sherlock found her out, and when she was almost killed in the end, she was always in control, she was never in need to be saved by anyone. That's not an object, it's a person. A sexual one, but a person nonetheless.

[piplover.livejournal.com]

I think I worded that wrong. It's not the fact that she's a sexual person that bothers me. It's the fact they have to make her continually sexual toward Sherlock.

I'm very much a fan of the original story, and so it just disappoints me that her character is continually made to fling herself at him. The two of them barely spoke two sentences to each other in the original, and though Holmes admired and had a crush on her, it was more for her mind and her talents as a singer.

It makes me sad that a woman can't be strong and independent and have her own life (Adler was married with Holmes being a witness in the original) without being turned into a love interest for the hero. I think it takes away from both of the characters and the story.

[mareen.livejournal.com]

I think I worded that wrong. It's not the fact that she's a sexual person that bothers me. It's the fact they have to make her continually sexual toward Sherlock.

Yes, because she knew it was the only way she knew she could rattle him. Remember that Moriarty told her his nickname for Sherlock is "The Virgin". So from their first meeting, she knew that was the one thing he probably did not expect and didn't know how to deal with. And once she realised that plan actually worked, she continued doing it. She was sexual towards Sherlock all through the episode because it kept him off his game. And it obviously worked, because he only realised she'd played him when Mycroft told him.

[piplover.livejournal.com]

And that is exactly my issue. Not only that she was working for Moriarty, which again takes away from the fact that she bested Holmes on her own, but the fact that the whole relationship was based on sexual frustration and power.

That is why I'm bothered. Because rather than have her outwit him with her brains, she apparently can only do so by womanly charms. I'm sorry, but I appreciated Adler because she was talented and smart, not because she could throw her boobs in Holmes face.

[mareen.livejournal.com]

I don't see that at all. She did use her sexuality, yes. But he also always used her brains, too. It was not just tits and ass with her. If it were, it never would have worked on Sherlock, as he obviously is not interested in a pretty face only.

[piplover.livejournal.com]

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

[leelust.livejournal.com]

What livestream did you use? Mine sucked :(

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Not sure, actually, I found it via tumblr...

[roadrunner1896.livejournal.com]

1895? *cries*

So close!

But other than that, the ep made me all kinds of happy.

Gizzy's sister clearly learnt a few things in the S&M club of Nottingham castle. ;)

[legoline.livejournal.com]

She clearly did. I wish Guy had learned those things as well :)

[roadrunner1896.livejournal.com]

Didn't he write the book on some of those things?

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Hey may have?

[roadrunner1896.livejournal.com]

I am sure he did. Just ask Allan. ;)

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Good idea :)

[roadrunner1896.livejournal.com]

As in rewatching?

That reminds me, I have to set up a new date with my friend now that she started work and after our Christmas break broke our regular schedule.

Thanks for reminding me.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Uhm, you're welcome?

I can't rewatch RH. It's too bad.

[roadrunner1896.livejournal.com]

I think it is fun if you make fun of it. And fast forward through the really bad scenes. I sometimes need brainless tv and Gizzy is pretty.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

He is really pretty but seriously, the stupid kills me :)

[roadrunner1896.livejournal.com]

But why did you buy the DVDs then if you knew you didn't want to watch again?

[legoline.livejournal.com]

BECAUSE! Gisborne is hot and I wanted to make the Rarmitage vid and stuff :p I will watch an episode here and there but I won't actually rewatch the show :)

[roadrunner1896.livejournal.com]

But rewatching episodes is still rewatching, no? I usually skip a few eps when rewatching shows and still call it that. Wouldn't watch all episodes and certainly would press the hell out of the fast forward button if I weren't watching with someone who has never watched before.

There are only very few shows I would actually rewatch start to finish. Slings & Arrows is the only one that comes to mind spontaneously. I think skipping the really bad eps and fast forwarding through bad scenes without the fear of missing plot is the beauty of a rewatch.

[ripper-girl.livejournal.com]

Gisbornes Schwester!?! Jetzt weiß ich endlich, woher ich die Schauspielerin kannte. Sie war klasse!

Wie überhaupt die ganze Folge! Du hast schon alles erwähnt, was mir auch besonders gefiel. Und das Ende "aufgeklärt". Ich war nämlich nicht ganz sicher, wie das zu verstehen war. Ob Irene wirklich überlebt hat oder Sherlock nur fantasiert oder so etwas. *g*

Freue mich schon auf die weiteren Folgen. :-) Und ich brauche dringend ein Sherlock-Icon. *g*

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Ja, das war Isabella. Diesmal ohne Powermähne *gg*