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Quotage

“When I get a little money I buy books, and if any is left I buy food and clothes.”
~Desiderius Erasmus

"You lot. You spend all your time thinking about dying, like you're going to get killed by eggs, or beef, or global warming, or asteroids. But you never take time to imagine the impossible. Like maybe you survive."
~Doctor Who

"Nothing in this world that's worth having comes easy."
~Scrubs

"When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl - you find someone to carry you."
~Firefly

"Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live."
~Mark Twain

"Porthos dreams of being a bear, and you want to shatter those dreams by saying he’s just a dog? What a horrible candle-snuffing word. That’s like saying, “He can’t climb that mountain, he’s just a man”, or “That’s not a diamond, it’s just a rock.” Just."
~Finding Neverland

"Sometimes our best decisions are the ones that don’t make any sense at all."
~How I Met Your Mother

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legoline

31 May 2006 @ 06:54 pm

Linguists! Help!

I'm fairly sure some people on my flist are linguists, and I NEED your help.

I'm supposed to do a GERMAN phonetic transcription for homework using fonts for the computer. That's right, no hand-written transcription allowed. So I FINALLY got a phonetic symbols font to work but it appears some important fonts are missing - like the "schwa" and also the symbol for the German "ä" sound. Brilliant. I've tried several fonts but ...

Does anyone know a good complete font with the phonetic symbols I need to make a GERMAN transcription? Help! I'm at my wit's end and I need to hand it in tomorrow.

Thank you!

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:09 pm (UTC)

Is this any help? http://ipa.typeit.org/ I know that the schwa is on there....as for the ä sound....um, hang on.
Is that a monophthong or a diphthong? I'm not good with German, but the was I think ä is pronounced equals /ɛə/....oh bollocks, it won;t let me display that symbol!

I'm not being any help at all, am I? Besides, is the IPA universal??

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:10 pm (UTC)

On the site I've linked, see the 4th and 9th symbol on the bottom line? The two put together make the vowel sound heard in the English 'bear'. Is that the equivilant to ä?

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:31 pm (UTC)

The 9th symbol would be the German "ä" sound I think...and yup, "bear" is pretty much pronounced the same as in German. THANKS!

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:36 pm (UTC)

With that 9th symbol, in the UK it's the equivilant to the vowel in 'bed'. So, is "ä" more like "air" or the 'e' in "bed"? Just curious :) I always get confused!

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:39 pm (UTC)

More like in "air" I think... the problem is where I live, we pronounce "e"s and "ä"s the same and it's really hard for me to tell the difference :p

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:40 pm (UTC)

Ah I see :)

Of course, these reference I've been making are all with RP as well

Argh, I pity you - IPAs are NOT easy!

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:52 pm (UTC)

Don't I know it! That's the one thing in my studies I'm truly horrible at...IPAs and phonetic transcriptions. Ijust don't HEAR it you know? I was really sure I'd fail my intermediate exam in English because of that...

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 06:10 pm (UTC)

I really enjoy writing them, and have a photographic memory so can write them quite well and quickly, but trying to hear the sound I find very tricky at times. Some of the sounds are SO similar as well!

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 08:30 pm (UTC)

but trying to hear the sound I find very tricky at times. Some of the sounds are SO similar as well!

That's precisely my thought :o)

By the way and very random - I told my friend Lena how much I loved "Under Ice" and she asked whether she might read itas well? I promise she's very nice and she'll love it as well but I understand if you're not happy with the thought because you still regard the fic as being unfinished?

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 08:39 pm (UTC)

Well......yes, she may, but could I send you over the completed version first? It's very veyr VERY nearly done now :D

And I'm flattered...very flattered! :)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:00 pm (UTC)

Yes sure! I'm sure she's willing to wait one more day :o9 I'm excited to read the completed version :o)

(Well the compliment is well deserved :o) )

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:02 pm (UTC)

I have literally half a sentence to do! :D I just need to tweak it slightly and then I think it is done

I may need to reread it again tomorrow but once that sentence isdone I should be happy to send it over if you like :)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:49 pm (UTC)

Yay!

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:52 pm (UTC)

:)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)

:o)

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:27 pm (UTC)

Done! :D

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:49 pm (UTC)

Oh, brilliant!!! *jumps*

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:52 pm (UTC)

*jumps with you* It feels good to finish a fic. I haven't actually compelted a fic in AGES! :)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)

That's why I keep writing short ones!

Oh I know! I should be off to bed actually but - what about a 10 minute meet-up to exchange fic? I've written a bit more of my college fi, too :o)

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 10:08 pm (UTC)

Oops, sorry!! I only just got this comment - oops :)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:30 pm (UTC)

Ooooooh thanks...now if I manage to copy the symbols into word...

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:31 pm (UTC)

It should work in word no problem - at least it's never been any worry for me. I used it when I was doing phonetic transcriptions for my English coursework :)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:57 pm (UTC)

Ah you had to do that, too?

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 06:10 pm (UTC)

Yup, a very long piece of English coursework - you know the one based around LOTR? :)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 08:30 pm (UTC)

Uhm..not sure actually *ducks*

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glorfinniel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 08:39 pm (UTC)

Oh, you must have forgotten then because I remember discussing it with you :)

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nelladarren.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:44 pm (UTC)

At university I know that the linguist people were using Corel's WordPerfect because it apparently was much easier for using phonetic symbols in texts.
I never liked it for more general reasons.

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:57 pm (UTC)

Hmmm...is it like MS word or just fonts?

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nelladarren.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 06:07 pm (UTC)

It's a program like MSWord - only different company. It's also rather similar - but you can do more with clicking ON things rather than access things via the menu bar.
And that's what makes me nervous. Other people like it.

But it's much easier to use phonetic symbols because you kinda don't have to go to the "Sonderzeichen" thingy every time you use one. I can't remember exactly anymore because I ran WordPerfect on my old computer but never installed it on the later computers anymore.

I don't have a clue if you could just take the WP phonetic symbol font and use it with MSWord - probably not, though... :o)

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 08:31 pm (UTC)

Hmmmm curious...but then again I'm pretty much a computer iliterate so... :o)

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nelladarren.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 08:50 pm (UTC)

Well - it's as if you buy washing powder - either you take Persil or Ariel; actually there's not much difference but some people prefer one to the other - I guess with that comparison linux users wash with Frosch... :o)

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snuffkin.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:56 pm (UTC)

Where did you get the font? and if somebody knows one with all the sounds I want it to *lol*

The girl who's tutoring the Synchronics Course doesn't have one and she always uses weird symbols that could somehow look like the real symbol *lol* Maybe I could earn some bonus points *hehe*

I'm totally in love with "schwa" :X

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 05:58 pm (UTC)

I'm using one called SILDoulosIPA but I haven't yet found the schwa or the German "r" sound...darn...

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andaldaiel.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 07:17 pm (UTC)

Well here's one wannabe-linguist lol *cough*

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legoline.livejournal.com on May 31st, 2006 08:31 pm (UTC)

Hey! Kudos to you!

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